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Re: Early Diebold bank safe with Yale double dial and pin timelock

Posted by Doug MacQueen CPS CMS on June 12, 2008 at 11:43:41:

In Reply to: Early Diebold bank safe with Yale double dial and pin timelock
posted by
Vlad, Minneapolis, MN on June 03, 2008 at 16:31:06:

Vlad, I am happy that the Diebold & Kienzle has found a new good home. I spent some time with your safe last year while in Wisconsin researching antique safes and locks and it is truly a beaut. I do not collect but that one was tough to walk away from. Having disassembled the lock to take pictures, it is truly an interesting lock. I do have some Yale catalog pics and info on the lock. Also have patent info on the pin dial timelock which was probably not original equipment based on the fact that D & K moved to Canton, OH and was known for a short time as Diebold & Norris from 1874-76 which is about when Yale introduced the timelock. Also the fact that the basic boltwork layout left no room for any timelock which would be expected on a bankers chest made in the first half of the 1870's. I have also collected all of of the patents regarding the development of the scissors lock. Based on that info your safe was built somewhere between 1870 and 1874. If it shows the city of manufacture and I can't remember, that would narrow it down further. If you would like any more info I would be happy to send some to you. Doug 216-375-6009 Cleveland



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