LCcsm2020 Ronald Reed - Oakland, CA - USA - |
May 19, 2014 at 18:18:59
To help out my safe techs I consolidates my notes and information from code programs and other sources (more than 1 source = research not plagiarism ;). Additions or corrections would be welcome and when done perhaps this could be added to resources. |
Safe key spaces and depths for Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other Asian fire safes
I have found many of these locks (usually shiny chrome locks) only have 4 pins or that the first space is not used. The most likely specs are the 3 used by AMSEC and others unfortunately you may need to cut or impression it down a couple of times to find the correct card. Frequently these locks use the SY blanks that have a centered blade i.e. SY1, SY4, SY5 and SY8. I tend to start with the longer blank SY5 or SY8 unless it won't go all the way in. Interestingly these safe locks usually leave out the registry groove ward so you will find that all 4 of the above blanks will go in.
Amsec/Protectall imported fire safes (shallow depths) Blackhawk code card #240
Spacing from shoulder for Blackhawk code cards 240, 235 & 241
Commodore files, Star, Crown safe and others have used SY1, SY4, SY5 and SY8 with ILCO/Silca card 305, Instacode IC320,HPC DSD91 and Blackhawk card 172 (a COL reference showed it as HPC card 58 but I've never seen one). This is for the K1-K1600 series but again possibly others. HPC also lists DSD1003 but this is probably wrong because the series has 4 depths and DSD# 1003 only has 3. Kreate-A-Key/Instacode card IC320 shows slightly different specs with slightly widened cuts I think this is a good idea for any of these locks as they seem to have fluctuating specifications/tolerances/quality control and are made in different factories/shops separated by wide ranges of time and space.
Spacing from shoulder for Blackhawk card 172
Yet another set of specs that is used in both 4 & 5 pin locks by Kumahira, Saga Security safes & who knows is Blackhawk code card #277 and Kreate-A-Key/Instacode card IC860.
I also have a sheet of notes from a class many years ago with the following FireKing specs that are close to the above.
Many Asian safes also use the ILCO 1636 blank or you can substitute Saab blank V61A aka 65V in Taylor.
Spacing from shoulder for Blackhawk card 342
These are similar to Kreate-A-Key/Instacode card IC864
My class notes show:
For Uchilda safes my class notes show:
Diplomat and Gardall safes have used the similar specs DSD1149, IC985 & BH333 (wisely widened)
While many of the codes stamped on these shiny chrome locks are direct or reverse digit many others with codes like 0001-0020 or 2901 to 2920 or 8701-8720 use only the last 2 digits and are from the following list: